Love is Blindness

Seems everyone wants to get on your case so therefore I should go lightly on you, but I have to ask, has that ink tainted beyond your hair that you cannot think more rationally? Really I don't wish to be mean, but fuck you are nauseating.
That is the reason why your party will always have a hard time becoming govament. You totally misconstru the meaning of 'opposition'. Now please don't cuss me PUP because I ain't. The one thing have to tell you that it does not make you vulnerable to admit wrong when you wrong sweetheart. Do you remember James Wang? Sam Ting Wang? Nuff said. Lighten up baby. We needed educated discussion not the premenstral rantings that you have been carrying on with. Ease up.

and i agree dito is not running. same way u say not to criticize him why u keep bringing up 1984? what does that have to do with now? ur main problem is that apart from living the past u live in a fantasy land where udp reign.

i see u da man like run from the facts. they hold courtney right?? but they didnt do anything to salva, dito or chiste to name a few.

i dont pretend anything, i am a belizean who puts my country first not my party. i told u i prove u wrong because u act like udp is some kind of angel government.

what they should have done was jailed whoever ordered dito to give u all that land by belchina.

and again the udp makes a better gov't because when they are corrupt its not as bad as the pup? buoy u only see red and white no true?

Shabba, this is not a game you know...

Don't pretend you want to hold the criminals accountable, but secretly you root for the PUP. I was happy the UDP took Courtney to court, I figured the PUP would take some UDP to court too. PUP claimed that the UDP were very corrupted, but they did not seek out justice for Belizeans.

Justice must be done for Belize - I really don't care if it is UDP OR PUP. We cannot continue like this. UDP seems willing to make the move, and I think the attitude of people is not like that of 10 years ago. People are not sitting down any more, they are still not as agressive but I feel more people are willing to make a stand against injustices and that is good.

The UDP has always hold those who do wrong accountable. Dito is not running. Salva did not run the last election, but after the massive corruption of the PUP, Salva is a saint compared to them. UDP members do a better job at holding their leaders accountable, the PUP leaders can more dictate to the members. But, I agree, UDP has to do even more.

aaaahhh !! finally i can agree with u on something redhead. the criminals within the party deserve to be held accountable. i hope a udp gov't will also punish the ones in there own party. i mean they've been out of power for almost 10years they want action too. dont u think?? or all 31 candidates have signed a pact that they will hold belize first??

most politicians have no use for the common man other than to vote for him.

Because I hold the UDP to high standards, I also will hold the PUP to the same standards.

If I believe the UDP deserved to loose in 1998, imagine how I feel about Musa today??

Musa deserves to loose and justice must be swift in holding those criminals accountable who have raped the resources of Belize and who have raided the Treasury, DFC and our national assets.

At the end of the day, we have great opportunities ahead of us, and ten years of Musa should tell us that Musa is ONLY interested in his family, friends and foreigners.. to hell the common man whether he is UDP or PUP.. Musa has no need to the common man except to vote for him.

I think the UDP deserved to loose the last election of 1998, I was very disappointed.

I liked the concept of free education but it could have been better implemented. I think the UDP won around August, or pretty close to Sept. Many people had paid tuition, much like the Musa textbooks program, the free education was not implemented well.

I totally disagree with retrenchment. I appreciated what the UDP was hoping to achieve, but UDP Leaders could have waited another 6 to 9 months to see if other strategies would have worked.

I think VAT as a tax was good, but the UDP allowed the PUP to discredit a good tax. Sales tax was higher than VAT, and with the cascading effects of Sales Tax that, the businessmen laugh all the way to the bank. The New Musa VAT is only a change rate, the effective rate of the NEW Musa VAT is terrible. Imagine getting a 5% discount on goods you rarely buy, but pay 10% more on goods and services you MUST buy.. that is a cruel tax. But, the UDP should have promoted VAT better, and not allow the PUP to determine the wrong perception on the VAT.

UDP also allow the PUP to determine the image of the UDP. Most people cannot really appreciate the success of the UDP in 1984, and the damage of the PUP during 1989 and 1998. The UDP propaganda is weak, it has always been.

Shit, I can go on.. but you get the drift...

The only way i would ever believe you is if you would be sincere enough to list only some things which "YOU KNOW" the UDP did wrong? Or are they the perfect model party which should be copied by all prospective governments? I see Sabba accepting in at least some faults and wrongdoings of the PUP but mein u seem like a real UDP asskisser no matter what.
"Bad is never good until worse happens"

u and ur misguided statements. u are repeating over and over the same thing when u dont have a sensible response. passports were sold wild under both governments. like u said it was the udp who had started such a program, the very one u criticize.

all barrow cares about is his seat and no one else. remember what he did in 2003 when he was afraid of dickie? he barely campaigned around the country so he could have attended queens square. he sacrificed the udp for his own personal gain.typical barrow style. fuck the rest as long as he ok.

typical udp to just expect the electorate to give them a vote without saying why we should? typical udp to expect us to give them the government when they have no ideas for us. typical typical typical.

Actually, it is the PUP that has been copying the UDP since the UDP came to office...

PUP opposed Tourism, the UDP pursued the Tourism policy because it was good for Belize.

PUP opposed privatization, but privatization was very successful under the UDP. When PUP pursued privatization, it was to transfer the wealth of the country to family, friends and foreigners.

UDP sold passports, I disagree.. but, and while PUP pretended to opposed the sale of passport, the PUP used that bad policy to enrich themselves.

These policies have been the major polices that has impact Belize the most over the last 20 years... there are all UDP policies that PUP borrowed.

PUP policy is borrow and spend.. any dunce can do that..

PUP borrow and spend in 1989-93 and followed that policy again under Musa.

The UDP will need to come up with some innovated policy like they did in 1984, PUP has not put any new policies on the table that has benefited Belize. So, UDP will have to blaze a new trail again. What that will be, I do not know. Barrow can certainly use the oil wisely, get a larger share that Musa has refused to press for. With more money, Barrow can put some policies to help poor people.

redhead its not a bad thing for u to agree on some of the pups policies. its better on yourself. than to deny things u know are right. you know i see why u like barrow u are the same as he is.lots of sweet words, phrases without committment and bashing the other party of course. u and barrow offer lots of listings of whats is wrong with how the pup govern belize, but u dont offer or suggest soloutions that one can hang there hat and hopes on. the only policy I can see the UDP has, is the same as always. They are simply there in case the PUP stumble, or corruption gets too bad and the PUP start leaving a bad taste in the public's mouth. If that happens, then like always, the UDP hope to get elected on the rebound, in a vote for anyone else as a public reflexive action. Wonder what Barrow really stands for?

You can disagree.. I don't agree with yours...

In which country did the PUP grow GDP an avg of 6.7%??
You mention NHI.. that has been promised AGAIN.. still on trial, not rolled out.
Mark did good for Tourism.. hmmmm, did you forget he gave away the Tourist Village when that would have made many poor Belize pretty well off today.

I can go on, but you get the picture.. it seems we will keep disagreeing..

still waiting for the 5 things the udp has done? when u have nothing to say u go back to things that u have mentioned already. man i never thought mr.redhead would never have something to say. hahaha.

I don't think both parties are the same, just like two Belizeans are not the same.. they may have some things in common, but some very fundamental things will be different.

When I criticize the PUP, I am not suggesting the UDP has no faults. In defense to spin the discussion, PUP argue that we are saying UDP is perfect. Well that is bullshit, NO UDP feels that UDP is perfect, not even Barrow thinks UDP is perfect. But, PUP makes that ridiculous argument to distract.

Yet, show me a UDP scandal involving $1 million, or $10 million, compare that to a list of PUP scandals in the $10s or $100s of millions.

Further, the main problem with Musa is the debt and transfering National Wealth by way of privatization. These issues are not by accident or one shot deals, it must have taken a deliberate, and well organized plan to steal the wealth and funds of the Belizeans people.

For example. The national debt stood at about $600 million when Musa inherited it - and that include a balance coming over from Price, and he blame the UDP for borrowing too much. Yet he borrowed the first $1 Billion,and continued to borrow, until Musa could borrow no more did Musa stop. That is deliberate, when IMF, IDB, UDP, Econ Intl Unit, and the Central Bank warned about the borrowing.

On privatization, UDP had already successfully privatized BTL. There was a successful model for Musa to follow. Musa took away BTL from Belizeans and transferred it to Ashcroft. Belize complained. Musa sold BEL to Fortis. Belize complained. Musa sold Belize Port to Luke Espat on credit. Musa granted his brother and friends the Airport, the national Tourist Village was sold to Feinstein. KHMH was going to be sold if Coye had not been pressured to step in, and by this time Musa was feeling the political pressure and elections were running too close.

Those things did not just happen. It is not like selling a caye, approving a bloated contract, these borrow and privatization would take weeks or months to negotiate and final contract drawn up.

How could any Belizean if they love Belize do what Musa has done to Belize?

well my brother if u seh free education was free under the udp then tek that. thats something stupid to argue. mines sure wasnt free.but maybe they were rippin me off? who knows? as to the rest of garbage u are posting then its your opinion and if thats what u are paid to say then i wont knock the hustle. i dont have to buy it. i rely on no propaganda my brother i am a belizean who loves my country i know whats up. u are the one using propaganda for ur source u sound just like the pulse/guardian. i cant reason cause they are one and the same. udp just as bad as pup. u cant seem to accept that. u barely named me anything they accomplished ever. if u dont even know what ur own party that u support has accomplished how can u defend them the way u do? talk about standing for something!

The PUP bankrupted the economy in 1984, the UDP lead the recovery during 1984-89.

You don't know the PUP history of DFC, you ever wondered why DFC has it so hard to find a manager? There is a history there. The PUP Leaders have always raided DFC, and it almost collapsed in the early 80's, the UDP salvage it, but Ralph abused it again in 1989-93.

Yes, the UDP gave free education, UDP paid the tuition of all the students. Each years the program was expanded, and it reached up the first year of Sixth Form.

Yes, the UDP set the foundation of the Tourist Village, just like the UDP set privatization in motion that build BTL to the most profitable company in Belize. The same concept of building Belize as a world class Tourism destination. Concepts are important in governance, if you cannot THINK, how can you DO???

Crime was under control in Belize and people were not afraid to open their business at night. Today, you cannot even get panades late at night.

Shabba, You have a short memory because you rely sole on the PUP propaganda for your source of information. When I mentioned to you that PUP were the FIRST to retrench workers in Belize, you must have been surprised.

Stop believing everything the PUP say.

u see the udp and pup have some good policies and i think if we change our sytem of gov't we could have them both have a say in the way belize is developed. where as the p.m. is elected country wide. then the representatives and who knows even senators.

i am defending the pup not musa. musa can kiss my ass. i dont like him. same way i dont like barrow. i like memebers of the udp most of my family is.

its unfair to compare barrow and musa in that way because musa has been p.m. barrow has not. and even so he has a failed record.

well as to bad points i stick to the decision that the 2 parties are 1 and the same.

let me be honest with u cause u seem to be str8 up. musa and fonseca are responsible for belizes problems right now. and they alone. i have no love for them they should be jailed. i will forever hold that opinion.

what i dont like is when people swear one thing and dont admit that in there group there is the same thing. u get me right? i mean its hypocritical.

i enjoy discussing with u cause u prove facts and seem to know your stuff and dont talk out your ass like ras koncas.if u ever run for the udp u got my vote. by the way i voted for the udp in san ignacio/santa elena town board elections. why? because they were a very good team. and they are. but i cant vote for the udp candidates in this area because they dont cut it for me.

we dont have to agree but at the end of the day we are still one people.

Shabba, if you cannot say that "Musa did this good" why are you defending him...

I can say Barrow did this good, because he did. He may have issues, but, when I COMPARE Barrow and Musa.. Musa is worse, Barrow comes out on top.

If you want to play shady, and pretend maybe you no like Musa, but definately no like Barrow.. What is the point?

You have two choices for the election, you either analyse the men and make a choice .. no man is perfect so Barrow and Musa will have good and bad points.. but, you need to find the one with the least bad, and most good.

That is all I am trying to do. I think the UDP has the least bad points, hence the PUP has the most bad points.

You can disagree, but why are you labeling me "head up Barrow ass" etc, etc, I do not curse you for defending the PUP.

Why would you not say Musa did something good if you believe it. I believe UDP can get Belize out of the mess created by the PUP, so, I say it. If you cannot reason for yourself, how can you curse me for believing that Barrow can lead us out of this mess. You cannot even reason for yourself to decide whether to go Blue or Red..

okay u contradict urself again...u say the economy was stable but a while back u agreed with me in saying it was stagnant.what did they do to make it stable and turn it around?

u say it turned dfc but what did they do to turn it around? best run in the region according to who? because u say so?

u feed me that free education shit. udp did not give free education ok. get that in your head.

set the foundation for the tourist village ok. so now we are saying set the foundation is as good as accomplishing.

that gang truce did not solve anything. that was barrow being himself and trying to look as if he did something good. crime did not go down because of it.

redhead research a little more and come back and post some shit that is worth mentioning ok. u have named me nothing here.

can u or can u not name me 5 things the udp accomplished? i know its hard but try.

During UDP 1993-98, which is only 5 years compared to 10 years of PUP... but here we go....

The UDP developed a stable and solid economic base, leaving a Belize with the strongest international ratings, allowing the PUP to borrow so easily when they entered office..

The UDP turned DFC around, making it one of the best run DFCs in the region.

The UDP implemented a Free Education policy ensuring that poor people did not need to pay tuition for school, they managed to get up to the first year of Sixth Form free.

The UDP organized and set the foundation for the National Tourist Village to maximize Belize as a tourist destination for ALL Belizeans, the Musa Administration realizing the wealth the Tourist Village would generated quickly transferred the National Tourist Village to a friend, who sold it to foreigners for 12 times the purchase price.

Crime in Belize was managed by developing a gang truce and finding jobs for many of the young members, the Musa Administration quick dismantled the successful concept and since then has been unable to controlled violence in the city.

easy they are all udp propaganda machines. and also there are only a hand full of u that do clog this site with garbage.like i seh i no defend no musa. u ever hear me seh musa do this good and that good.i am not like u and redhead who got there head up barrow ass just to get a job from him. u will polish his bald head and redhead since he lee smarter will deposit shyne money da bank. go back and read everything weh i seh before u open u mouth. get u dictionary too and come back and post some sense.

If PUP was so good & they did so much....why is there not so much emphasis on this site to point out the "good works" of the PUP?

Why is it that Koncas & Free Belize.org has much fire to burn on Liad Musa and the PUP and there is no medium by which the PUP has to remind us of how great they are & how much they mean to us?

Infact you can't even go outta street and praise your slave master liad musa as you do on this site. You would be a laughing stock just as you are amusing to us here on Koncas.

Fuck You, Have A Nice Day.

well first of all i think u meant of the pup government so here goes...
Tourism- belize is now a top world destination.thanx to mark espat. Education- pup has made it more accesible. 6th forms all over and even international universities. not to forget tripling the budgetfor education, built numerous classrooms. most if not all schools have computers now which replaced the udps idea of i.t. of having typewriters.Health- numerous hospitals have been built. nhi coming into place.Economy- avg. growth rate of 6.7% , free zones, created a better environment for businesses to make money. and has ensure the press remains free. remember when udp ministers were breaking up the radio stations and harrassing the press. still doing now. if u want ask me i can go more.

i find it funny that when i ask u to name things the udp has done 93-98 u cant u say u dont want to get into that with me.

i have never said musa is so goood. i praise no man. they no feed me. i refuse to sit here and say musa is this and the other i will vote for him. i cant do that. i can say that while he has not been a good prime minister members of his gov't are and have made belize a better place today than it ever was. and also u can kiss barrows ass all u want, its so sad that u cant see him for what it is.

Shabba, since Musa is soooo good.. could you tell me 5 great things of Said Musa over the last 10 years..

Road Fly, this must be where he gets confuses.. it is really hard to find good things that Musa has done....

Perhaps we can make it easier for Shabba.. list 5 of the bad things Said Musa allowed under his watch... that is far, far easier to come up with.

u could ahead and tek u chances. for u it will be ok. u see ur lee job done secure. i mean barrow need somebody fi shine his head and send shyne money.

things haaad weh papa? thats a habit belizeans like seh. u eva go da chetumal mall on a weekend full a belizean. go da di casino pan weekend full. go anywhere on a weekend and u see it full. businesses make more money now than they ever did.

u admit the economy in 93-98 was at a stand still then u try and feed me that the economy was rescued? wtf? weh u di try seh?

as to the hurricane what aid were we expecting to get when it barely hit us? if u compare it to others.

Where were you for the Citco Election, Marshall admitted to be unable to pay his debts.. that thing with not paying debts must be a PUP thing.

Marshall confirmed on national TV that Musa has ting haad out ya....

Musa has spend move Billions than any other Administration before him, and thing still haad in Belize... shit.. when Christmas comes people di worry, come on Shabba.. where is the economic miracle of Said Musa??

You say UDP 93-98 economy was at a stand still, le me even agree with you, under Musa we are worse than stand still, money was in circulation, our international ratings were strong, we could easily access money if required. Look at the poor response to the hurricane in the North, Musa total incompetence, imagine if Belize City was hit???

Many friends or family would have died if Belize City was hit, no sound shelters after almost $100 million spent, not way to move people, and too many people too poor to move. A legacy of Said Musa.

I will take my chances with Barrow and the UDP...

i really dont know what world road fly live in. u and redhead deh pan di same pipe or what?

are you for really? Refinancing!!!

HAHA, to refinance you must have 2 things:

Equity (our foriegn reserves I belive is at an all time low I think it is 30 million or so)
and
Credit (we went from B++ rating to selective default)

Do me a favour go refinance your maxxed out loan and take a picture of the bank manager as he laughs at you...

my brother in the banking business its very common.

wah politician no means pup u know in case u neva know them have on both sides. barrow, finnegan, boots, e.t.c. they always di give handouts jus tlike pup so no come wid u rass.

Not because we know what re-financing is, it means it is a common practice.

It has become common in Belize because Musa has made it very common in the way he runs the country.

Shabba Quote
"jobs? my brother in belize there are many opportunities. even the latin americans come and find job. no gimme da no jobs no deh speech. da bze city dem no need fu work cause when they need a money they go da di politician fi handle them. what we lack is a diverse job field. we either work da gov't, in tourism, e.t.c. no high tech jobs."

redhead remarks:
What did that quote imply, when they need money they go to the (PUP) politician and they get handled. PUP ministers have to have money from somewhere, the only way to have that huge amount of money is to steal it..

Shabba, those are your words.. not puttin words into your mouth...

i weap for belizes future with duncy people like uno. its called refinancing. u all never heard of it?? its a common thing that business too. spreading there loans for a longer period so they can have shorter payments.

why u like puttin words in my mouth? i never mentioned anything about members of pup stealing so much they cant pay workers? lay off the pipe. u said no jobs deh. which is totally untrue. so much jobs deh that they can even pay u 2 do jack shit.

how can u as a human being honestly say that barrow had crime under control when he left office. crime in belize city has always been the same no gov't has controlled it.a pile of shit like this i have never heard before. u got ur nose way up barrows ass that u cant see the real world.

barrow is a failure. the udp is a failure. if they rescued the country twice as u say how comes during 93-98 belizes' economy was on stand still?? some good policy? i'm sorry i didnt take " slow economies 101" class.

if the udp were so bright as they claim to be they would have won belizeans over by simply putting forth what they plan to do (like barrow did this week saying he might lower fuel). instead of using someone as duncy as u to come and be there washrag on this site.

It many not be common to most of us, but is very commom among the PUP Leaders. The PUP Administration of the 1980's had to do it a number of times, until the bottom finally dropped out. Musa had the bottom drop out and had to do it again.

I am very surprised that Shabba do not know this. The PUP Leaders have always failed to bring economic prosperity, the PUP Leaders record on the economy is mainly failures.

negotiate debts and lower payments??? Are you guys insane, thats not common practise unless you are filing bankruptcy or choosing Selective Default.

I just noh see how anybody could justify these guy's actions. Its friggin shocking!!!!!

It is not time to be wondering, you need to stop buy into the propaganda of the PUP, once you do that you will truly be able to see thing objectively.

If you think I blab, take each of my points and show me where I am wrong.

Were the PUP Leaders the first to carry out a retrenchment exercise? Yes!

Are the PUP Leaders the ONLY ones to always engineer economic failure for Belize? Yes!

Under privatization, did the PUP not use that policy to transfer the wealth of the country to friend, family and foreigners? Yes, the Musa Administration did that.

Was the UDP privatization successful. Yes, the UDP created the most profitable company Belize has ever seen - but more importantly it was owned, controlled and managed by Belizeans.

I have not illusions about UDP, I know they are not perfect, but I also know, that when I compare the UDP Leaders to the PUP Leaders, the UDP are far ahead.

I am NOT telling anyone how to vote, I am only saying WHY I would VOTE for the UDP.

As to how Belize can we wealthy, but still bruk. Again, if you have studied accounting, you would have known that a profitable company can go bankrupted. How does a profibable company goes bankrupted, the same way a wealthy country gets bruk....

Shabba, you said it was common practice for any business to negotiate debts and lower payments. True. But, that is not the issue, the issue is HOW TO USE THE DEBT WELL in the first place so you do not need to beg for bailouts. You keep suggesting how great the Musa Administration is doing, but ignore the fact that we are in a mess and only trying to get out... a mess created by the Musa Administration. Perhaps you are implying that Musa cannot really bring true success and prosperity to Belize, so Musa strategy is to create a mess, then make a little recovery to pretend that he did something great. I really do not understand your argument.

On jobs, Shabba you are pathetic, to suggest that members of the Musa Leadership have stolen so much they can basically pay those Belizeans who need job. I know they can, but is that the way you want your country to be like. Perhaps you know exactly where the BILLIONS are...

What has Barrow done? Very good question.... What has Barrow done compared to Musa would be an even better question???

Let us compare Barrow and Musa on crime. Has Musa in 10 years gotten the crime situation under control? NO!! Recall when UDP was struggling with a crime wave in the City, Barrow took over police and boom, before the UDP left office, crime was relatively under control, under Musa, Belize City has never been the same the way Barrow left it.

Let us compare Barrow and Musa on Foreign Affairs. Recall, early in Musa Administration a few of our BDF were capture by the Guats. What did Musa do? Poor Eamon Courtney was the new Foreign Minister, Musa as a season Foreign Minister, but were paralyzed not know what to do. To pretend that the PUP Administration was strong and powerful, Courtney suggested they would NOT negotiate. IT was Barrow who quickly offerred his advise that the soldiers needed the best legal defense and that our international partners and organization must be alerted, while we use all avenues including commecial and political alliances to safeguard our soldiers. In the end, Barrow advise was followed, the soldiers came home safely. No one never bother to comment on Barrow critical advise, but the UDP don't toot their horns.

You know, as a professional most the time my job can be done by a sixth form student, but in crisis, at critical times, that is where my skills and experience comes in... that is Barrow.

I don't know what specific actions UDP will take to fix the mess the PUP created, what I can say, is that UDP had done it before, they can do it again. PUP wrecked the economy in 1984 having to call on the IMF, Musa wreaked the economy again and we have debt crisis on our hand. If the UDP of 1984 of teachers, carpenter, old retired public officers could rescue Belize, I am certain this team of UDP based on those I know are even more talented that those of 1984...

Now, back to the bankruptcy of a profitable company, a company needs TWO things to remain in business - profitability and liquidity. Musa debt crisis has drained our liquidity, it is like our national credit card has been maxed out, and the taxes are coming in too slow to pay the bills... when that happens, a profitable company may go bankrupt.... ask you accounting professor.

sometimes i wonder what is your motive in spreading the propaganda all over this site. all u do is blab off what they feed u. none of it is facts.

so "u" are telling us that we should feel good and vote for the udp cause "u" know some candidates as good and so that qualifies the entire udp as having a great slate.

u are the one that openly admitted that belize was wealthy. u contradict your own self.
once again u are telling us the economy is bad and that all is doomed for failure if the udp is not quickly voted in office. negotiating debts is something any business does in order to lower payments. its a common practice.

jobs? my brother in belize there are many opportunities. even the latin americans come and find job. no gimme da no jobs no deh speech. da bze city dem no need fu work cause when they need a money they go da di politician fi handle them. what we lack is a diverse job field. we either work da gov't, in tourism, e.t.c. no high tech jobs.

and for some reason u keep bringing up price. price no di run fi election papa.

what has barrow done that makes him qualified to run this country?? for his constituents and for the country during his time as minister? what will the udp do to fix the mess we are in? if they want to be the gov't they should tell us. redhead call barrow and come back and tell me.

I would not rather a government that DID NOT GET US IN THE MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE.... The Musa Leadership created the mess we are in, then they tell us they can rescue the situation, that begs the question, did the Musa Administration create the mess deliberately?

If the PUP Leaders had the answers, why did they create the mess?

Shabba, have you forgetten that the FIRST retrenchment was under a PUP Administration - and even that did not help us in 1984. Maybe you need a little bit more history lesson of the PUP Leadership....

Secondly, while the Musa Administration had refused to implement an open retrenchment, he has been retrenching. When Musa said in the budget speech that he is cutting Capital II, that mean retrenchment of Open Vote Workers.

Further, because Musa was paying the salaries with borrowed money - refusing to eliminate the high-paid political consultants - it affected the private sector. Recall BSI retrenched 60 workers, BTL slashed workers, BTL cut workers by 1/3 and CISCO after the cut in Capital II cut 300 workers, this was happenning all across the country, but individually it past unnoticed. Recall, that on a Xmas when it was so bad the PUP Media started to bad-mouth Christmas because there was almost no foreign exchange.

Please note: using borrowed money to pay salaries was one of the main reasons the Price Administration ran the country into IMF hands, Musa has followed the same proven road to disaster and failure.

I don't know all the UDP Candidates, I don't know all the PUP candidates, but those UDP Candidates that I know, gives me confidence that UDP can fix this mess created by the Musa Administration.

The economy is NOT doing good, how can the economy be doing "good" when it was not at a level to repay the debts? It is not at a level in providing needed jobs. Good compared to what?? Is it good compared to the eminent default that we begged bankers to bail us to??? But, it is certainly NOT GOOD after spending BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. What happenned to the Billions???

i would much rather a government who tells me we are in some hard times right now and manages the situation. than some government who fires workers and holds the economy hostage because they cannot handle a crisis.

What a loaded editorial this week from the purveyors of propaganda behind the zinc fence! I wonder if they really believe in the warped reality that they try to create. More realistically X, Vellos, and co. have a great laugh whenever they think about their readers actually buying into the shit they are selling. The reference to the two treacherous Godfather hitmen (Tattaglia and Sollozzo) is interesting, because it suggests that they were once trusted by the Krem Empire and have now turned against Partridge Street. Who could they be? The reality is that there are no Tattaglia and Sollozzo, or so methinks, and the editorial is really a smokescreen for the real magic happening behind the scenes. And that is Son and SIL's trying to cover their asses in the event the PUP loses. "See Dean, we have been attacked. Please feel sorry for us... etc etc etc." The fact is that these 'attacks' have been in the planning by the so-called victims for months. X is trying to direct a theatrical masterpiece and is using his 'loyal readers' as guinnea pigs.

so why are u feeding us this shit that the economy has collapsed? our dollar remains in tact. our economy is still doing good. u said so ur self we are wealthy.

u named me a few candidates that are good but what about the other 22 ?? u have no confidence in them?

the ordinary belizean out there knows under whos government things are better.

and what is this shit about anything else better than musa. if barrow is an anything and wants to be prime minister what hope are we to have.

the udp were succesful...enough to fire 500 + workers before xmas. and since they are going into this campaign saying the economy is bad we need to save i guess we will fire more workers? the udp are not saviours of any economy.

You say you want the PUP to loose for them to come badk renewed, you are already accepting that "only the PUP can rule Belize", that is what my old gramma was thinking under the PUP bankrupted Belize in 1984. You felt the PUP could lead until the PUP under Musa, AGAIN, bankrupted the country. The PUP has bankrupted the country TWICE, but you are looked for a renewed PUP.

The UDP on the other hand has always managed the economy well, not perfect, but it never collapsed under their leadership. It is the successful UDP you doubt, but the failed PUP you have hope in. I think you are not seeing, because you are not looking. Or you see what you want to see.

You said don't get your wrong, the UDP team is not there.. I have to laugh. The PUP said the same thing in 1984. That is fear of change. What team does Musa have in place?? Ralph, Godfrey, Francis, or Musa.. goodness!! Sorry for Belize.

I do not fear change, and Musa will not make me doubt change. Musa is bad for Belize, and almost anything else will be better than him.

The UDP team that I know are solid. I have confidence in Saldivar, Faber, Heredia, Contreras, Hulse, Perdomo, Boots, Sedi and Barrow.. that is a good team..

Why fear change, change must come, and we know Musa has to go!!!

i'm sure u know a little about party financing right? udp told him he had to pay thats why he gave all his millions to pup now its the other way around. hes financing the udp now and will get the same results. this man is the richest in belize and owns every politician on the market. theres no denying that.

and lets say it was barrows sons ( o sorry he neglects his) who had invested in a business to look for oil should we punish him for taking the initiative? u have to understand musa his days are numbered. his leadership days are over.

i said from the very beginning i want the pup to lose. for the only reason that i want them to come back renewed. i would like to see the udp prove me wrong that they can lead. but we will see how it goes.

I don't know. I think the UDP lost mainly because of retrenchment and VAT. Not really about promises. I think free education was a good policy, the UDP should pick it back up, dust it off and this time make sure it works.

There should be free education for all family with income under $30,000, not simply for everyone. That is my view.

When I said the UDP would save $700 million, it was referring to not loosing more millions by way of DFC. I never suggested UDP would buy back BTL or BEL, but perhaps Belize can get a better deal.

Musa kids are from the Usher family, are any of the oil wells named after your father, mother, uncle, or aunt. The oil wells are named USHER.. that family have shares in BNE, and that is not news to anyone.

Again, what about Esquivel are you talking about??

As to Ashcroft, you seem to have purchased line and sinker whatever the PUP Leaders are selling. The Willians and Barrow Law firm represent the Belize Bank, other PUP firms represents other Ashcroft businesses. Yet, while W&B does business with Ashcroft, there is NOTHING that the PUP Leaders can point to which would show that Barrow has betrayed Belize for Ashcroft. The facts are there that Musa betrayed Belize over and over again in order to ensure Ashcroft got a good deal and Belizeans got screwed. Do you know that UDP forced Ashcroft to pay taxes when the PUP had granted his FULL TAX EXEMPTION. UDP told him he must pay, he is the richest man in Belize.

it would be interesting to hear your thoughts bout what went wrong with the udp in 93-98. why they promised everything under the sun to get elected and forget everything the minute they won. the biggest one was free education. check it redhead i know u got the stats.

dude how can he invest his money when he gambled all the millions he hustled from governemt. last year belize bank took away his house. can u tell me he aint in it for the hustle?? i will not waste time with aragon or campos they no even di run.